Why don’t you say the compleate truth and tell them how MS restricts this game only to Vista users and how you can only search for multiplay thru their damn live system that you have to pay MORE MONEY for to connect to console users? Write a real review instead of fluffing MS.

You don’t have to pay MORE money if you already have a 360 live account, so what you are saying is only true for those people. Seriously, after the last few desolate years in PC gaming, I would expect most people interested in this game would have a 360 and a Live account.

As for the Vista bitching you seem to be doing, Vista is much more different in form and function than XP. Those who do not see this either don’t have Vista or don’t understand what it is to program for it. In short, Vista incorporates .Net as part of its core operating system, something XP can never do without a complete rewrite (which is Vista). This is key as .Net is much faster to write for than traditional C++. As it’s part of the OS now and not slapped on like XP, there’s much improvement in terms of executable speed. Remember, they’re trying to reinvigorate gaming on the PC. Not to mention they simplified the hardware requirements by assigning your PC a number. This way, you can clearly see if your PC is up to spec to run something. This might not be a big deal for you or me, but for the uninformed dad looking to buy his kid a PC game, it’s a Godsend.

You can argue the point that Vista is not yet as streamlined as its XP counterpart, and you would be correct; however, I seem to recall XP being a buggy mess before SP1. Let’s wait until SP1 comes out before comparing XP to it.

And before you ask: no, I don’t work for AVault; yes, I own Vista; yes, Vista is slightly slower at gaming than XP, but every OS goes through some growing pains (given what MS is doing under the hood, it’s a pretty impressive OS); and anything that brings PC gaming back is a good thing.

And how about stating the fact that is probably bothering anyone out there who knows the true origins of the Shadowrun franchise? The fact that Micro$oft took one of the best, widest, most fantastic role playing games on the market and shrunk it down to a mere Quake 3/Unreal Tournament knockoff. Not only that, they managed to terminate, to cease and decease, the project that wanted to bring the true Sixth World of Shadowrun to life on the computer and made us lose our hope for, maybe once, a good CRPG – Shadowrun Online.
All this shows is that Micro$oft doesn’t need the Mozilla Project or Apple to copy good material and dilute it.

so im suposed to pay for a serivce that i have gotten for free for the last 10 years just about? Not to mention that fact that if the gaming companies sign up for this live crap they CANNOT by contract offer any of these free services that i have expected in every game i now recive. As for vista i have played with it and it is a boondoggle in a work enviroment and at home that force users to cancel or allow any thing you do witht the freaking os. Que in that stupid windows defender crap that you cannot uninstall and they can have their crappy os, which by the way they are begging people to buy since sales have really not been that good. As for .net the framework was added to XP think its up to version 3 now. And you forgotten to mention the unbeliveable specs you need to run the damn thing and get thouse numbers up that you talked about. I have run a machine with 2 gigs of ram in it and vista was still slower then xp. And for winXP you didnt have 1/2 your programs refuse to install or work with the OS. Which is a big consideration in a business enviroment. As for PC gaming dieing, all majior gaming innovations will contine on the PC platform since it is much more adapable.

I wouldn’t pretend to know the Shadowrun franchise, just Vista.

Here’s a good chance to get to know it. Pick up your 4th Edition books today.

Alright. I saw Shadowrun when I was at E3 2006. The game looked and ran beautifully. I had one of the developers giving me a rundown of the game. As an FPS, its a great game that gives true diversity to FPS play. The FPS aspects added give a range of options and play that none other offer. Those whom play Counter Strike and Unreal and try to compare either played the game for less than 15 minutes or simply didn’t play it at all. As an FPS and RPG enthusiast I understand the difficulty in implementing a truely FPS-RPG and making it worth smoothly. I understand this as a developer myself.

FASA’s choice to make the game an FPS with certain semi RPG aspects was neither right or wrong. It was what was done. Deal with it.

To the review:

RPG Gamers: You won’t find the RPG aspects that you loved playing ShadowRun back in the day with pencil and paper in your grandmothers basement.

FPS Gamers: You will be delighted to find that the FPS genere has been revamped with a whole arsenal of tactics. Its no longer just point and shoot. Its teleport through a wall and ninja your opponent or fit a bunch of tech gagets and go in like a war machine in true FPS glory.

Ophidian

As an update: Vista is not required. There has been posts on the internet which I will not provide that show you how to play ShadowRun in all of its PC glory on WinXp.

Ophidian,
can’t really play the game online with that patch, now can you? as posted before, tell the whole truth instead of just a portion that suits you.

you can play XP shadowrun online with hamachi, works a treat although you will have to find other players doing the same. the vista version just had an OS check it wasnt written sec for vista, shadowrun is a great game.

just been reading through this little tussle going on here, i just got my new pc sorted and built myself a new beast, naturally got a copy of vista and my new system runs it pretty sweet. the thing that bothers me is i was looking at buying shadowrun but saw someone mention that you need to pay for some sub to play with ppl using the xbox 360′s, one of the reasons i was going to get shadowrun was that a few of my mates play it on the 360 and thought it’d be cool to blow some ppl away with them but not sure if i can be bothered with yet another sub after my internet bill and various mmo subs… is it a concrete requirement that you need to pay a sub inorder to play with and against the xbo 360 players?

really need to know before i go buy this game.

I agree with Lamb Cannons, why would those of us buy this game if it requires you to pay a subscription fee every month which is used predominently for Xbox 360 games. And you are only going to use the subscritpion to the Xbox live network for this game alone, and no others, because you dont have an Xbox 360 to take advantage of it.

However, I must admit the game does look great, but it is predominently a multiplayer game, so you wouldnt want to buy it without paying for the subscription as well. Therefore if you do end up purchasing this game, consequently, you will end up continuosly paying for it for the rest of the year; along with the rest of the subscriptions you may have to other games. – Its just not worth it!

I agree with chriskovo!!! Stop being a M$ stooge!!!!